now that we have an eink display in the PT2, I think there should be a better AR to go with it. One of the things I love about my eink ereaders is how amazing they look in sunlight. The best don’t have glass in front of the eink display so your really get the crispness, so, I think it’s a worthy upgrade to the PT2 to add an AR coating
the display on the Pebble is NOT THE SAME as that of an E Reader
E readers use E Ink:tm: displays, while Pebble uses Memory LCDs(originally from Sharp iirc)
b/w watches use sharp displays, color watches use ones from JDI
sorry, talking about the new Pebble Time 2 which uses a color e-ink (technically epaper) display.
Sure, but a good AR coating will cut down on the glare of the crystal. The only reason I mentioned an e-ink reader is that the ones that don’t have glass seem sharper due to not having glass in the way. I don’t expect that on the pebble, but I would think anti-reflective coating would make it much more readable in daytime.
Pebble Time 2 does not use a color e-ink display! e-ink make electrophoretic displays (the balls with the black & white pigments/however color works there), while Pebble uses transflective memory lcd displays (similar to a regular lcd but only needs little standby power, transflective meaning if you shine light on it it gets better to read while still allowing a backlight)
The inherent sharpness of E readers is because if their screen. E Ink has a pseudo nature Anti Aliasing since it uses microcapsules suspended in a fluid, and is driven with electric charge changes. Since there are quite a lot of these capsules, more than the screen resolution, and the electrodes driving the display also slightly affect neighbouring capsules, it makes it seem cleaner for stuff like text.
In Pebble’s case, the display works differently(and is backlight driven vs frontlight on e ink).
Regardless, I think the best option is just buying a screen protector with AR coating, and iirc, Gadgetwraps has one with Oleophobic coating atm, so could be a possibility
It’s probably too late to add this to the manufacturing step. So best option would be to take this suggestion for Round 2 and see if Core decide to implement it there
Oh, bummer. The “epaper” in the description threw me off as I thought it was a generic term for the brand “e-ink”. After a bit of digging, seems like it’s a common misconception. One of the reasons I was excited for the PT2 was I have been longing for a really good e-ink watch.
Would be good to clarify on the website that it’s TLCD just like the old ones.
yes, exactly why I thought this was an amazing upgrade to go to e-ink. I ALMOST got the Pebble 2 Duo (I have the original Pebbe 2), and am glad I didn’t as it’s bascially the same thing. Kind of a bummer as I’m still chasing that GOOD e-ink watch I’ve been dreaming of.
I’m guessing it’s because of cost and the monopoly E-ink (brand) has on the market.
I think it’s the markets fault for wishy washing the term E ink and E paper
E ink is a type of E paper, but that doesn’t work the other way ![]()
Not just that
E ink would work for a very static-like watch. Barely updates, stupid amount of battery, etc
However, considering this is using PebbleOS, which has a ton of animations and the likes at 30fps, no E ink display of this scale would ever reach that speeds. Not just that, colour is still kind of a mixed bag on E ink, and has horrible contrast and whiteness
I don’t see any need for them to update the terms considering E paper never means E Ink in particular. It’s just the fault of the market, and especially the reviewers who use both terms as if they are one and the same ![]()
I’d personally still be 100% clear to the buyer that it’s a TLCD screen. It’s not a bad thing, just mitigates the confusion.
And I’d still think you could do e-ink and get the animations, or hell, adapt them to what e ink can do. Some of the new e-ink screens can play back pretty well. And part of the charm of pebble IS the animations, but also the iconography itself. I think it could be done and having a pebble that you only have to charge two or three times a year…that’s a dream.
I still want an AR coating on the next batch, or on round…or on my wish of a modern update of the OG Steel (shape and lugs).
